The More Sibyl Podcast

희망과 사랑| The One with Poojee - On Cross-Cultural Friendships & Resilience: Episode 35 (2018)

This is one episode you should not miss as it features my very own Poojee!

In this episode, Poojee aka Omonike (my mother gave her this name, and it means ‘a child to be cherished’ in Yoruba – A Nigerian language) and I gush shamelessly about the love we have for each other. Pu, as I love to call her, and I went to grad school together in Austin, and she now lives in London. If you’re my friend on Facebook, you would have seen posts of me her and together. In this episode, we explored Poo’s story: growing up (female) in India; dropping out of grad school; how she coped with managing those expectations and from others too; our friendship and its oddities; and why we will not be breaking up anytime soon.

Poo is about one of the very few friends I chased (I am usually the one being chased), and I explain why this was so and why I would shamelessly do it over and over again. Poo is as geeky and nerdy as I am and loves Korean drama too. We also both share a mutual disdain for Apple® products. Suffice to say, our friendship will irretrievably break if either one of us cheats on the other by taking a bite from any of the already-bitten Apple products that are Mac and all of its i-Friends.

TL; DR: It’s a story of an odd love, friendship, and sisterhood between two most unlikely people who share different beliefs on religion (she is Hindu, I am Christian) and food (she eats rabbit food (aka vegetarian), and I eat rabbits (aka non-vegetarian), and even personalities (she’s introvertish, and I am hella extravertish, yup it’s a word!). How we make it work and how a little understanding and radical acceptance is needed in cross-cultural friendships. It’s also a story of resilience, dealing with the fear of failure, and keeping things moving.

PS: I would love to hear from my listeners sometimes, you know. My inbox is getting too lonely, and I am feeling a bit insecure about this. Please help me overcome this podcast insecurity by emailing me at talktomo@mosibyl.com on what you either think of the show in general or this current episode. Please and thank you!

Poojee says: “Don’t be afraid to look like a fool asking for help.”

Reflection:

Speak candidly and gently to a friend about their hang-ups and things you think they could work on. In return, listen patiently too to what they have to say about you. The goal is to establish openness in your friendship.

Recommended song:

“Monta Re” – Swanand Kirkire, Amitabh Bhattacharya (2013)

Best,

모 /Mo!/

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우리의 이야기| The One with Shama - On Immigration and Storytelling: Episode 34 (2018)

Hey friends, I want to take a hot moment to let you know how grateful I am to have this platform to share stories and connect humanity. So, if you are reading this and would like to come on the show to share yours, please let me know. This is our platform, and together, we can set our stories free.

Meet Shama Farag – an Arabic-English Translator at TED talks, Coursera Global Translator Community. She’s an author and a journalist blogger at HuffPost Arabic, Aljazeera blogs, Sasa post. She is also a member of the Unitarian Universalist Church Interfaith community FIRE “ Fostering Interfaith relationship in Eastside,” a member at MAPS MCOC “Many culture one community,” member of IOC “Interfaith outreach community at Muslim Association of Puget Sound. She is Egyptian and a mom of two boys.

In this episode, we talked about heart stories and immigration, how Africans aren’t really taught about other African countries and what we can do to fix this. We also talked about what it is like being Egyptian, and she gave us reasons why we need to visit Egypt.

Her book, “Hi, I am Syrian” was inspired by some negative experiences she had as a Muslim and she decided to do something to change that narrative.

Shout-out to Salma for making the introductions!

PS: My ignorance about African countries, especially Egypt, shone brightly in this episode.

Question: Why do you think Africans aren’t taught about other African countries?

Takeaway points:

• There are many Arabic dialects – I did not know this.
• Egypt has a lot more to offer than just the pyramid.
• We can use our stories to transform the world around us.

Notable Quote by Shama:

“Every calamity you have in your life will treat you a lesson.”

السلام عليكم (Peace be unto you),

모 /Mo!/

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마음과 건강| The One with Ayokunle Falomo - On Mental Health and Being: Episode 33 (2018)

First, happy birthday to me! It’s the second anniversary of my 30th birthday! As a way of saying thank you to you all for being wonderful fans, here’s a bonus episode. It’s also a special one because it depicts my favorite trait in all of its rawness – vulnerability. In this episode, my guest – Mr. Ayokunle Falomo and I traded stories on our struggles with depression, how we cope with it, and how religion can be a cure and curse, depending on how it is wielded. I chose to share this with you all because I think it is important to remind you of the story behind the glory. I also believe that God is not silent when we suffer and that we ought to reject the shame and embrace the hope in Christ. Finally, that: 1) depression is not as uncommon as you think and affects a lot of people, 2) it’s OK not to be OK sometimes, and, 3) there’s always help around the corner.

So, I hope this episode helps someone feel connected and to remind that someone that they are not alone. Don’t give up on fighting and it’s OK to seek help. Here’s me saying that a new day will dawn tomorrow and you’d be there with me to practice your purpose once again; one replete with choosing life and finding ways to be more gentle and compassionate with yourself. That you would always remember to remind yourself that you are enough and always will be.That every baby steps you are taking right now to get back on track are a significant move towards the right path.

PS: We also explored how funnily our depression can be brought on by just not our fear of failure but when we succeed. And how there’s a recurring struggle with purpose and productivity, and how these are tied to our self-worth. Ayokunle Falomo is: a Nigerian, a TEDx speaker, an American, the winner of the 2018 Stacy Doris Memorial Award and the author of kin.DREAD & thread, this wordweaver must! As a poet, his singular mission is to use his pen as a shovel to unearth those things that make us human. He and his work have been featured in print (Local Houston magazine, Glass Mountain) and online (The New York Times, Houston Chronicle, and Berkeley Poetry Review. You can find more information about him and his work at www.kindreadbook.com.

Shout-out to Dr. Ayomide Adebayo whose post in 2013 about depression gave me the insight needed to seek help.

Notable Quotes:

“The work of digging into the past is the work of the now. For some of us, the past is never past. A lot of things still hold us back, and factors such as family dynamics, environmental and work factors contribute a lot to our mental health.”

Read more about my story here: https://goo.gl/dtc2ZQ

Recommended songs:

Intro: “Eye Adaba” – Asa (2007)

Outro: “Fame” – Adekunle Gold (2018)

Love you all,

모 /Mo!/

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하바나, 하바나| The One with Dr. Planas - The Cubana-American Professor of Pharmacy: Episode 32 (2018)

Welcome back to another episode of the podcast! I have not been getting feedback about the show like I used to, so I am guessing things are either good with the show or I’ve been forgotten :-(. Guess all that was just to say, I’d love to hear from you. Please send me an email on talktomo@mosibyl.com or just say hello here :-D

Here is introducing Dr. Planas, Ph.D. - an Associate Professor of Pharmacy, my senior colleague, and African sister! Her office is two doors away from mine, and she’s partly one of the main reasons I landed my academic position at the University (it began with a conference in 2015, listen to find out how). I met through my advisor while I was still in grad school.

Dr. Planas or Lourdes as I call her is Cubana-American; her parents fled Cuba when she was just one month old. In this episode, we talked about life in the US and growing up in New Orleans instead of Miami (this has the largest concentration of Cubans). We also explored racial identity and how pharmacy helped her overcome racism and cultural identity issues, especially growing up in a time when it was certainly not cool to be Cuban.

You will also hear about the two clocks that are churning fast for fecund women in academia – the biological and tenure variety. And why Lourdes’ deliberate plan of putting her biological clock ahead of the tenure one is one she does not regret. Also, we talked about why women require more than just mentors to have a successful career.

Dr. Planas is married to Rick (also a pharmacist), and they have two adorable kids who I have had the pleasure of babysitting a couple of times. I am technically family :-D Lourdes also emphasized the importance of having a supportive spouse when on a tenure-track or in grad school while raising kids.

PS: After taping this episode, her mother’s DNA results were updated and linked with hers. She is 0.5% French, yayy her wishes finally came true. Only 0.5%, you say? C’est la vie!

Fun facts about Lourdes:

• She waited 12-13 years to have kids.
• She was recently promoted to Associate Professor.
• She is really of mixed heritage; a small part of her is Asian, African, European, Native American.
• She made me see Black Panther with her as a condition for coming on the show.
• She has all the cutest tchotchkes; there’s almost nothing she doesn’t have in her office.
• We both serve as co-advisors to the organization - Student National Pharmaceutical Association #SNPhA.

Takeaway Points:

• Go to conferences – it helps to build your social capital and network that could land you that job.
• Find yourself a Lourdes at work or even better, be a Lourdes to someone.
• Whether you put the biological or tenure clock first, make sure it is a decision you have given careful thoughts.
• Women have been over-mentored and under-sponsored.
• Try a Cuban sandwich but not outside of Miami or Tampa Bay, Florida.

Notable quotes:

“I got the biological clock and the tenure clock, which one was going faster. I put the biological clock first, I really did, I don’t regret it. Sometimes, things happen in life, and everyone is different, but I wanted to be in a stable position, put down some roots.“
“Once I moved to Jacksonville because I was a Pharmacist and helping people, I felt more connected to that community, and I felt less threatened by them, and I felt empowered. Being educated, having a career, and being a pharmacist, helped empower me to rise above the tension I perceived between my culture and the society at large.”

Recommended song:

Intro: “Big Chief Part 2” – Professor Longhair (1964) &n --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support

인도의 사랑 이야기| The One with Emily - On Being Jewish-American-Indian: Episode 31 (2018)

A little-known fact about me is that I grew up on a staple diet of Indian movies, and this continued shortly until after Bollywood became a global phenomenon. India, for me, will always be my first entry point into Asia and its cultural diversity, as a young child growing up in Nigeria. And still on India, this week’s guest has a unique story, especially how her love for India was forged at a young age (hint: it began in a classroom). In this episode, you will hear how her dream spurned into something glorious that has now shaped her life-course and those of the generations coming after her.

Meet, Emily: she describes herself as Jewish-ish and a lover of Jesus. She is also a wife to Jose and mother to two delightful, energetic kids. In this episode, you will learn what it means to follow your calling even when you are not sure where it might lead you. You will also hear tips on multicultural marriage and how to raise kids in such a dynamic environment, as well as its beauty and challenges.

PS: This episode was shot in my house when Emily came visiting with her kids; you may hear her daughter’s voice in the background. Shout-out and a Namaste to Daphne Raj for introducing me to this wonderful lady.

Fun facts about Emily:

• She convinced her mother to let her go to India when she was 15 (Please do not try this at home with your African parents, thank you. And if you must, approach them with caution).
• She loves tea.
• From the ages of 15, till she turned 22, she visited India up to nine times.
• Her interest in India was initially piqued by her need to fix Christopher Columbus’ error #DiscoverAmerica.
  

Takeaway Points:

Similarities between the Jewish and Indian cultures

• They are both family and community oriented.
• People from both cultures have driven personalities.

Differences between the Jewish and Indian cultures

• Women have a lot of say-so in the Jewish culture, in general, and can be headstrong.
• The approaches towards money differ.

On thriving:

• Find the beauty in both cultures and highlight those but bear in mind that there is going to be a more dominant culture. You kinda have to accept this otherwise you are just gonna fight all the time.
• Let your kids take part in the different cultural activities that are part of their background.
  

Notable Quotes:

“The Whole 30 diet is like Paleo on steroids.”

PPS: After our talk, I got this text from Emily later at night.

“I think I should have said on intercultural marriage... Jesus! Without Him, we would fight like cats and dogs! He puts it all into perspective...culture and His perspective on it all really helps us to keep our particular preferences in check!”

Nama’stay here, with y’all for a bit,

모 /Mo!/

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올리비아에 대하여| The One with Kenny - The Unspoken Love of a Father: Episode 30 (2018)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: The One with Kenny Still on the daddy issue (I know! But hear me out on this one). This week’s episode started with an email I received from one of my ardent listeners - who was also today’s guest on the show. It was also the first official fan mail I got!: Dear Mo: Everyone believes fathers should be strong and just provide financially while the mothers raise the children. I am a father of a 3-year-old daughter with a rare medical condition (which has resulted in massive learning/developmental delays). My wife and I are very hands-on in raising our daughter. What I've experienced in the three years of fatherhood is that the mothers get more support than fathers. I'm Nigerian born but been living in the UK for the last eight years. Do you have any guests who can talk on the topic - fathers and support for them? The contents of the email tugged at my heartstrings. After much reflection on the choice of guest, I decided to ask Mr. Kenny if he wouldn’t mind doing the honors as I could not think of any other perfect guest to do justice to such an important and rarely discussed topic. In this episode, you will hear about the challenges, societal expectations, and triumphs of raising a child with special needs. You will also hear tips on how to build and foster support for those with special needs, especially for parents and caregivers. More importantly, you will hear about a father’s love; the kind that is unspoken but constant, affirming, assuring, and ever-giving. PS: Olivia’s condition is called 1p36 deletion syndrome (also known as monosomy 1p36). It is a congenital genetic disorder characterized by moderate to severe intellectual disability, delayed growth, seizures, limited speech ability, and weak muscle tone with varying symptoms depending on the exact location of the chromosomal deletion. There is no cure for this disease. Treatment depends on the symptoms and may include rehabilitation/educational programs, antiepileptic medication, and standard therapy for affected organs. You will also hear about a day in the life of Olivia. According to Kenny: Olivia’s condition has brought him and his wife together, as a closer family unit. Don’t be afraid to be open and vulnerable, especially to those who love and care about you. Be their voice and advocate, especially when talking to health care providers. Read, research, observe, and pay attention as much as you can on the condition. Love is a powerful tool with healing powers; make sure to show your children love. Social support is critical when dealing with rare diseases. Find a patient advocacy group to belong to and if unavailable, consider starting one that is relevant to your cause. Fun facts about Olivia: She just turned three and is quite the spunky three-year-old with some sass. #Yasss She loves her soft toys. Her favorite color is blue. She loves grabbing things so be careful with your earrings, headphones, or necklaces when around her. She is the boss of the house. Hearing her distinct laughter echo around the house, according to dad, always warm his heart. And to dearest Olivia, when you can get to read this, dad (and mum) would like for you to remember that: You are beautiful and specially-abled. You will be able to live a fully functional life. You can achieve anything you put your mind towards. Always show love to people. "Daughter" – Loudon Wainwright III (2007) Respectfully, 모 /Mo!/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support

버마 소년| The One with Nathan - A Tale of Two Countries - Burma & Nigeria: Episode 29 (2018)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: The One with Nathan - My Burmese Friend Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, is the second largest country in Southeast Asia with a population of more than 50 million people. Chances are Myanmar is one of those countries that has never crossed your radar. It used to be this way for me too until I met my dear friend, Nathan, in 2014. Nathan is from Myanmar and is ethnically Chinese. He left Myanmar in his teens to live in Singapore. He holds a Masters in computer science and software development but switched his career by bagging an MBA with a focus on public health, so people won’t think he is the IT guy (*insert Asian joke here*). In this episode, we explored the shadows of our countries, post-British colonization. If I learned anything from this episode, it is that poor countries (as measured by absolute poverty) have similar presentations, no matter what part of the world they are located in. This is because poor countries are poor because they have extractive economic and political institutions, where a culture of monopoly, corruption, and lack of political rights are the norm. (Recommended text: Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity and Poverty (2013) by D. Acemoglu and J.A. Robinson). As a result, Nigeria and Myanmar as so much alike in more ways than I thought, and not just due to our common colonizer – the British. I gauged his opinion on Aung San Suu Kyi, the Burmese Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, who is making headline news over her alleged inaction to the persecution of the Rohingya people in Rakhine State and refusal to accept that Burma's military has committed massacres. We also talked about his hobbies – reading and traveling, as well as our mothers and WhatsApp broadcast messages. PS: Nathan and I met in 2014 while interning at the same biotech company in Boston. During that time, we hung out a lot and explored a lot of the Boston scenes.. This episode was shot at his house in Somerville while I revisited Boston in July. Fun facts about Nathan: He loves to dance and is exceptionally adept at it. I have gone dancing with him a couple of times, so trust me on this. He is a polymath; a person of wide-ranging knowledge or learning. He is not good at Math (Shocking! Insert yet another Asian joke here). We both have a dark sense of humor, haha. Similarities between Myanmar and Nigeria: The income gap in Myanmar is among the widest in the world, with supporters of the former military government controlling a larger share of the wealth. A lot of people move out to seek greener pastures elsewhere. Think push and pull factors, with Singapore being the top destination. With the UK, USA, or Canada being top destinations in Nigeria. June 12 is to Nigeria as August 8 is to Myanmar #8888. Self-censoring was rampant throughout the 80s under the military era. While there is a huge importance placed on education, both countries experience corruption in educational equality mostly due to poor government infrastructure. Both countries ‘run’ on US dollars, with hundred dollar bills being the most preferred. Inflation rates are off the roof and highly unpredictable. Mothers in both countries have a special thing with sending cringe-inducing WhatsApp broadcast messages. Due to outdated power grids, dating back to the British colonization era, blackouts are frequent. The people are really about the best thing about these countries. O’ Burma! 모 /Mo!/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support

우리 가족의 가치| The One with The Lawals - On Raising Nigerian-American Kids: Episode 28 (2018)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: The One with The Lawals In talking with some of my friends, especially those who just became new parents, I found that a lot of them struggle with the feeling of insecurity around parenthood and fear of not doing enough as a parent. It humbles me when I hear these conversations because I think most of them are really good parents. In a bid to build community for these issues, I invited The Lawals on the show. Thus, this episode is dedicated to those friends and others like them. I hope you connect to this and that much more, you realize how amazing you already are. This episode features a candid conversation with Nigerian parents who are raising Nigerian-American kids. You will hear about their insecurities, fears, and rewards regarding parenting. On how certain adaptations and tag teaming are necessary when raising kids in a different society than the one you grew up in. Also, on cultural differences and why some Nigerian parents do not allow their kids to go on sleepovers or playdates. PS: This episode was shot in their house on a lazy Saturday morning. I have come to a soft conclusion that third-culture kids, raised by Nigerian parents, have a lot of shared experiences, especially of being grounded similarly, regardless of where they grow up in the world. Gotta give it to Naija parents for the homogeneity. Fun facts about The Lawals: They have twin girls! I am crazy about twins; so much so I married one (not only for this reason, haha). Mrs. Lawal is still a patriotic Nigerian; you need to see the glimmer in her eyes every time she talks about Nigeria. They met online way back when we used dial-up technology to surf the internet. #truelove They play good cop, bad cop with the kids; listen to find out who plays what. Takeaway Points: Be mindful as parents. Always turn back to say: “Hi, I love you, I will see you later.” Tell your kids what to do but make sure you show them why, when needed. Especially as they grow up and become more assertive. Parenting is a continuous improvement process. Parents learn through their kids as much as their kids learn from them. Be a lazy parent – let your kids figure some things out, engage their curiosity to help their brain grow. Notable Quotes: “It is crazy that the one place that you seemingly cannot truly feel that your kids are completely safe is inside American schools. You are not truly sure of whom you are handing them over to or with whom they are interacting.” You cannot raise your kids in a bubble. From Monday to Friday, they spend more awake hours outside of the home, and you have no control over these external environment. This is why we communicate the whys and hows with our kids and lead them by example.” These struggles, we have as parents, will never go away. What we need to fight this is the constancy of the parents, and hopefully, some of our teachings will stick. Not all will stick because they will form some of their own thoughts based on the environmental influences.” Recommended song: " Ode to My Family" – The Cranberries (1994) PPS: My prayers for us is that we never lose our purpose and inherent functionality unlike the dishwashers in Nigerian homes. The kids are alright, 모 /Mo!/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support

비욘세 최고 팬| The One with Dr. Bamgbade - On being Nigerian-American & Mental Health: Episode 27 (2018)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: The One with Dr. Bamgbade For this episode, we need to do 100 cartwheels, throw some confetti, and roll out the red carpet, because it features the very Queen in all of her splendid glory! Here’s introducing Dr. Benita Bamgbade, aka BeNyoncé (get it?) Born to first-generation Nigerian immigrants, growing up in H-town (Houston), Benita grew up very conscious about her heritage, especially at an era when it was uncool to be African (pre-Wakanda times). In this episode, we talked about all these and what it has been like moving to Beantown (aka Boston) from Texas. We also explored life as a new assistant professor of pharmacy and how dating or making friends in your 30s can be Herculean tasks. PS: She does research on mental health and designed an intervention recently on the health-seeking behaviors between Blacks and Whites in the US. She loves Jesus and Beyoncé! Also, we may have been well oiled and highly spirited when we taped this episode #redredwine #invinoveritas Fun facts about Dr. Bamgbade: She is so extra like me, and we connect on a deeper, spiritual level with that. We work well together and always come up with the most extra, lofty ideas, haha! For her research on mental health, she has won two back-to-back awards at the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) meetings. #gogirl She is the first rapper on the show. We both love and miss #HEB. If you never lived in North and Central Texas, you won’t understand the struggles #lesigh Takeaway Points: Significantly higher proportion (81%) of young Black adults living with depression in the US do not seek help when compared to Whites. Don’t get too bogged down about what your friends and family would think. The people you are worried about care about you. If you are living with depression and not living your best self, go get help. It gets better when you get help. So people don’t like you? Oh well! You will be alright, and they will be alright too. We cannot be our jobs; there’s gotta be more to life. Find your ‘more.’ Notable Quotes: Being Nigerian now is super cool, but it was not cool growing up from elementary school till the beginning of high school. Being African was not cool, but now everyone is like ‘Wakanda Forever.’ Like no! You used to make fun of me; this is not for you. Go sit down or apologize or do both.” “Being Nigerian and American to me means being the best of both worlds. I love being Nigerian; I thank God that I am Nigerian, I love the culture. My American side too has its merits and having a ground foundation on both sides are great. The downside is not being fully grounded on either side.” “Being a professor is like graduate school on crack. The pressure is so much more now on a tenure clock.” Recommended song: " Red Red Wine" – UB40 (1983) I woke up like this, 모 /Mo!/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support

내 일본 섬에서| The One with Mai - On Multiculturalism and Being Okinawan-American: Episode 26 (2018)

The More Sibyl Podcast Presents: The One with Mai Born to an Okinawan mom and an American dad, thus growing up bi-racial in a multi-cultural home meant Mai had to ask tough questions from the start about identity, equality, community, friendships and the like. An aspiring graphic designer and a secretive poet, she uses the arts to continue the journey of those questions, through her multi-cultural marriage, and the community around her. A fighter for love to be in action in all places; who loves hearing the stories of those around her in hopes to build better bridges in all places and with all people. Mai also enjoys the simple pleasures of puppies, coffee, food of all kinds, and summer activities. In this episode, we talked about her cultural heritage and tips on how to navigate multiculturalism in language, marriage, and expressions. PS: Okinawan-Japanese is the equivalent of Hawaiian-American; thus, Mai is ethnically Okinawan. Also, it would mean a lot to Mai if you went to see 'Crazy Rich Asians;' according to her "your ticket purchase helps affirm the industry that people want to see diverse leads." Fun facts about Mai: Her parents met in Japan when dad was in the US Airforce. If she speaks too much in one language, her brain gets tired. So, she needs a fine balance of people with whom she can speak English and Japanese. She spent a lot of time in Japan when growing up. So much so that when she moved back to the US, she was classified as an international student and had to take ESL (English as a second language) classes. Takeaway Points: Mai had two very good questions for me as a Nigerian about Nigerians. Your insight as a multicultural person is always needed and valuable. Be proud of your heritage. Notable Quotes from Mai: “I find the Japanese culture at times fascinating because even though it is a communal society, there is so much pressure on the individual to succeed which sometimes creates a painful tension.” "In America, it is harder to build quality friendships because it is an individualistic society. Thus, self-love here, ironically, is to schedule spontaneous activities to make sure I spend quality time with my friends." “Being married to a Chinese-American, we both have to learn how to navigate this space of multiculturalness we share. We both have parallel lives of being able to relate on how it feels to navigate multiple cultures and not really feeling like we belong to anyone in particular.” Recommended song: "Say Anything" - X-Japan (1991) [Mo says: "The arrangement of the musical instruments reminds me of Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody"] Jya-ne, モ /Mo!/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mosibyl/support